[3.10] Not able to assign my own builder ships to my own stations to build - Devs on the case.

[Browser_ice]

Hi, I do not recall if I had this with 3.0 but with 3.10 when its time to select a builder ship for my station to build, it does not allow me to assign my own builder ships.

I do not recall how and kinda expect someone else to say it, but by memory, when I select my own builder ship there is no right click select menu or there is but it simply does not assign it. I would need to build myself a builder ship and test it, which I cannot at the moment now. I sold them out as they were useless and would take time to try to recreate this situation.

[Alan Phipps]

I'm confused. Why are you only now reporting something about which you can no longer be totally certain, nor for which you can provide any supporting evidence?

[Browser_ice]

Blaim it on old age maybe?


I just know I cannot assign my own builder ships to my stations to build. I just don't quite remember how it happens between the time I click on my builder ship to select it and finding out it does not work.

I will try looking for an old save game to see if I can recreate it or do it with my own current savegame file.

[Browser_ice]

Ok, just because I started talking about, it now works !

Is Egosoft hacking my game? LOL !

I just did a test with my current game session and it worked. Its a brand new bought builder as of just 10 min ago.

Just a few days ago, I could not select 2 of my builders for 2 stations of mine to build. Maybe I need a new pair of glasses, maybe I did something wrong, I don't know. But according to usual human behavior, its only natural that I assume I did nothing wrong and that the whole planet is wrong.

I will let this thread on for 1 week or so, just to see if someone else reports the same. If not, I will add a CANCEL mention in the title.

Thx any way.

[zazie]

I had similar experience, more than once. Sometimes the player seems unable to select his own building-ship (or his ship is unwilling to follow orders ...): imo you might encounter these difficulties if you have edited any kind of equipment after last confirmation of changes.
So if you are in the Build-Menu and click on "Hire.." doesn't work properly on Building ships (own or NPC), CONFIRM, leave the Build-menu and the map and open them again. Now it should work.
As a workaround for own Building-ships (as in the case of the OP): click/mark your builder, right-click then your station and select "Build" in the context-menu. Basically it's the same as assigning freighters or miners to you station, just a few clicks more.

[Browser_ice]

I have situation again.

I created the plan for a small station
accepted the estimate of how much it would cost to build it
clicked the ASSIGN BUILDER button
zoomed out until my own builder that I had just bought 2 min ago is in view
right clicked on my builder, option Select appeared, I clicked it
screen goes back to my building plan, no displayed error and it still says there are no builders assigned or hired

instead of selecting my own builder ship, if I hover over an NPC builder, it shows a hirering fee of 50,000 credits.

I tried again but this time with the debuglog enabled. The following error messages appear when I try to assign my own builder. I tried with 3 diff builders of mine:

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[=ERROR=] 142113.32 Widget setup error: Tried to set non-existing property 'halign' on widget of type 'cell'

stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'TraceBack'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:3370: in function '__newindex'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:2607: in function 'displayPlan'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3532: in function 'displayMenu'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3723: in function 'onUpdate'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:894: in function 'onUpdateHandler'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:494: in function <P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:491>
	[C]: in function 'pcall'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:16187: in function 'CallUpdateScripts'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1746: in function <P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1469>
[General] 142113.32 ======================================
[General] 142113.32 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 142113.32 Widget setup error: Tried to set non-existing property 'halign' on widget of type 'cell'

stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'TraceBack'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:3370: in function '__newindex'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:2607: in function 'displayPlan'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3532: in function 'displayMenu'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3775: in function 'onUpdate'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:894: in function 'onUpdateHandler'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:494: in function <P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:491>
	[C]: in function 'pcall'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:16187: in function 'CallUpdateScripts'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1746: in function <P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1469>
[General] 142113.32 ======================================
[General] 142113.55 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 142113.55 Widget setup error: Tried to set non-existing property 'halign' on widget of type 'cell'

stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'TraceBack'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:3370: in function '__newindex'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:2607: in function 'displayPlan'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3532: in function 'displayMenu'
	P:\SVN\temp\menu_station_configuration.lua:3775: in function 'onUpdate'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:894: in function 'onUpdateHandler'
	P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:494: in function <P:\SVN\temp\helper.lua:491>
	[C]: in function 'pcall'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:16187: in function 'CallUpdateScripts'
	P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1746: in function <P:\SVN\temp\widget_fullscreen.lua:1469>
[General] 142113.55 ======================================

[florianlt]

Please provide me with this save and detailed steps to reproduce the issue.

[Browser_ice]

Please provide me with this save and detailed steps to reproduce the issue.

Working on it. I have some issues with my old GMAIL account.... Will let you know once I uploaded all the files.

[Browser_ice]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sQlVw ... WRZA160PMg

I did several trials in different conditions trying to reproduce it.

[florianlt]

The problem in your save is that all the Builder ships already have a Fly To order. The Deploy To Station order for assigning the Builder ship gets queued after that, so that it does seem like it did not work. The ship you pointed me at has actually a dozen Deploy orders queued and will eventually get to that.

We are discussing a general solution to this internally. One improvement will be that assigning a Builder ship will clear the order queue in the future.

[JMCorp]

We are discussing a general solution to this internally. One improvement will be that assigning a Builder ship will clear the order queue in the future.

I don't like this idea. can't you just put a popup that says "selected builder busy", or just show the builder busy like you do builders that are building something. that way the player can decide what to do about that.

I guess i should explain why i don't like the idea. the main reason is i might have told the builder to fly to a particular location because i wanted to manually route them around a rough neighborhood or something. if you clear my flight plan the builder will decide on his own to fly however he wants. this might be very bad for your very expensive builder.

[Browser_ice]

The problem in your save is that all the Builder ships already have a Fly To order. The Deploy To Station order for assigning the Builder ship gets queued after that, so that it does seem like it did not work. The ship you pointed me at has actually a dozen Deploy orders queued and will eventually get to that.

We are discussing a general solution to this internally. One improvement will be that assigning a Builder ship will clear the order queue in the future.

How can it have a dozen deploy orders queued when I clicked the assign button max 2 times?